tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28989955.post4031874103600861147..comments2023-10-30T14:34:16.722-07:00Comments on Men Need Feminism: Men Matter: Lashes for EveryoneJeff Pollethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13789663140920958914noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28989955.post-20177977008064499002007-11-28T11:31:00.000-08:002007-11-28T11:31:00.000-08:00Thanks for the comment, Al. I do see MRA's doing ...Thanks for the comment, Al. I do see MRA's doing some good humanist work from time to time, not just working to dismantle/vilify feminism, but you have to look pretty hard.<BR/><BR/>Good point on MRAs and heteronormativity...I don't know enough MRAs to verify that, but it rings true on the face of it.Jeff Pollethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13789663140920958914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28989955.post-33107166725069928662007-11-25T18:22:00.000-08:002007-11-25T18:22:00.000-08:00Good points Jeff. I always find it interesting and...Good points Jeff. I always find it interesting and somewhat disingenuous when MRA's point out that equal concern is not being shown for men. One, feminism operates from a base assertion that women are an oppressed class. Generally, MRA's tend to be male and heterosexual; an extremely important difference when it applies to patriarchy.<BR/><BR/>Two, where exactly are we seeing equal time being provided from the MRA to feminist or "humanist" concern as they frequently assert. I see very little discussion of feminist issues beyond the idea that feminism is the end of all humanity.<BR/><BR/>The Saudi rape case is telling, as Jill pointed out. It says many things, but most of all it gets at the very ingrained beliefs around homosexuality and the perception of men. Though they like to portray that homosexuality is not a problem in their country, having lived there I can take issue with that. While it is certainly not culturally accepted, that by no means should suggest it doesn't occur. Often, it occurs via male entitlement, through the rape dynamic, as wee are seeing in this case. I have nothing to base it on, but i have a hunch that may be a dynamic involved in this case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com